Hey Mr. Big Bad TTB Lover

[lightnin]

When are you going to pull the sami's solid axle and swap in a TTB Front Axle? Lets here it mr Solid axle hater.

[Blanco]

When are you going to pull the sami's solid axle and swap in a TTB Front Axle? Lets here it mr Solid axle hater.
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I have no hate towards Solid axles at all! :nono:

My stance is on why do people buy a TTB rigs so they can swap a straight axle in when there are plenty of straight axle rigs available..:m2c:

Chevy Blazers are great Rig's that is pretty much the same thing as a Bronco..
I guess I understand the Brand loyalty thing but if you dont like what FORD built & then you spend alot of your time Bashing FORD's work then your not really all that loyal towards them are you..:76:

It's kinda like buying a HONDA & bashing Jap Cars. & installing an American V8 because Jap engines dont build enough HP! :4:

If you want a V8 dont buy a Honda CRX! If you want a straight Axle dont buy a TTB Bronco! :m2c:

[Couch Slouch]

Werd...Although i must admit i would LOVE to have a TTB 78-79 bronco....

[lightnin]

Yeah but I love the 92-96 body style. But hmm no solid axle. The thing about engineers is most have no experience or worked hands on what they are designing. I believe the 9" was fords best rear axle. Hmm Lets change the rear axle. For no reason. It would be cheaper to build the 8.8. Save us money. I hate that. If the engineers could design a new axle they could incorporate a tone ring in a 9". Same reason for the ttb. They probably saved a ton of money but sacraficed "durability" as in alignments and stuff.

Your one to talk. If the TTB was good enough you wouldn't have cut and bent your TTB. To make it "better". Same reason for a SAS. To make it "better"

[BillzFordz]

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I have no hate towards Solid axles at all! :nono:

My stance is on why do people buy a TTB rigs so they can swap a straight axle in when there are plenty of straight axle rigs available..:m2c:


You live on the west coast in sunny Cali.Try living around the snowbelt where salt is used on the roads in the winter time,chances of finding a solid axle Bronco in good enough shape to wheel.Most have the bodies and or frames rotted in pieces.Its not only the fact a solid axle is simply stronger than any TTB,in stock form,,and most people I know don't have 3-5 grand to build a TTB strong enough to hold up to serious abuse.Its simply cheaper for solid axle parts,to build a dependable axle.While no axle is indestructable,you gotta look at all the variables.

[87BIIXLT4x4]

the D35 TTB itself is a very strong axle, ive seen it take some major abuse, so if your doing something extreme to break it ... you should think bout changing your wheeling habbits...


same goes for the D44 TTB , if your wheeling and brakeing that shiat, its time to think about your wheeling habbits and lay of the skinny

[bigbroncojeff]

i got my truck as a daily driver years ago... the ttb was great then... but as my life and wheeling habits have changed... so did what i need in a front axle... i would lose big time $ if i were to throw out the whole trck and get another that i would have to switch axles on anyways... so why not just toss the ttb and get a solid 60 ...and they don't make a one ton ttb so :14:

and yes i know... if i were able to do baja like stuff i would be all over an upgraded ttb... but i don't have that kind of terrain without driving 10 hours northwest

as far as reg strait axle 44s being stronger than ttb 44s isn't really true... the u joints where the axle turns on each side would be the most common failure in either of the 44s and the ttb actually has larger u joints there..... as far as the u joint in the center of the ttb pivot... it is huge.... not gonna be the first thing to go

but they are a bitch to keep aligned



breaking a dana 44 isn't hard to do at all....just some regular wheeling can do that.... not talking about dirt trails or a mud puddle... but some regular offroad trail runs... dana 35... umm... not that strong but a good fit for an exploder or bronco 2... they just don't weigh as much so they are not putting the same strains on their drivetrain

[Blanco]

so why not just toss the ttb and get a solid 60 ...and they don't make a one ton ttb so :14:


What was the D50 TTB rated at? :6:

I'm asking because I dont know?? :shrug:

then again I've not heard about Baja racers ETC ever building those up for the extreme harsh eviroment that The Baja 250, 500, 1000 etc builds..
Not to mention local desert race teams that use them...

[87BIIXLT4x4]

*staying out of this one*

[BillzFordz]

i got my truck as a daily driver years ago... the ttb was great then... but as my life and wheeling habits have changed... so did what i need in a front axle... i would lose big time $ if i were to throw out the whole trck and get another that i would have to switch axles on anyways... so why not just toss the ttb and get a solid 60 ...and they don't make a one ton ttb so :14:

and yes i know... if i were able to do baja like stuff i would be all over an upgraded ttb... but i don't have that kind of terrain without driving 10 hours northwest

as far as reg strait axle 44s being stronger than ttb 44s isn't really true... the u joints where the axle turns on each side would be the most common failure in either of the 44s and the ttb actually has larger u joints there..... as far as the u joint in the center of the ttb pivot... it is huge.... not gonna be the first thing to go

but they are a bitch to keep aligned



breaking a dana 44 isn't hard to do at all....just some regular wheeling can do that.... not talking about dirt trails or a mud puddle... but some regular offroad trail runs... dana 35... umm... not that strong but a good fit for an exploder or bronco 2... they just don't weigh as much so they are not putting the same strains on their drivetrain
My solid 44 front on my 1/2 ton has seen more abuse with my 38's than any TTb probably could only dream of holdin up to.........4 years of serious abuse and I have only destroyed to axle shafts,and totally grenaded 1 center section and 1 of the fellas with a ttb had replace so many shafts I need my toes to count with along with my fingers,not gonna turn this into a pissin match.TTB has its benefits but the downfalls out weigh those by along shot.
Yeah and I won't even go into constant allignment issues.
I need not worry bout about any 44 woes anymore as my hd44 in my 3/4 ton its been swapped with a 60,which will hopefully soon sport all the alloy shafts and 35 spline outters.......

[87BIIXLT4x4]

Bill u should go Chromoly (sp?) shafts, i hear they are pretty tough

[BillzFordz]

Bill u should go Chromoly (sp?) shafts, i hear they are pretty tough
I can't remember who makes the kit I comes with both inner and ouuters with the 35 spline and hubs.......

[Brokenbronco]

And the point to all this is?!:deadhorse:

[Couch Slouch]

And the point to all this is?!:deadhorse:
There is no point.One is better for crawling with massive tires,the other is better for handliling rough terrain fast and smoothly.I like solid axles and IFS so i aint argueing.But,i would be willing to bet that if some of you guys ever got a ride in a L/T desert truck,you would be sold...Its a awesome feeling to make 2-3 ft whoops like its a speed bump.

[87BIIXLT4x4]

hmmmmmm i think its time we close this thread?

[CJ7on33's]

nah i think its funny especially since no one is disagreeing with me and i'm not going to get into other than. I hate chevys IFS damn them

[Blanco]

nah i think its funny
I agree, Naw!!!
Lets see where this goes... :HistericalSmiley: :humm_smilie: :deadhorse: :Violin:

[Big Wurmb]

Id take the TTB over Chevy IFS ANY DAY. but like lightinin was sayin, sas is to make it "better" for personal usage, kinda like you and your 8.8 to 9" upgrade.

[Blanco]

Id take the TTB over Chevy IFS ANY DAY. but like lightinin was sayin, sas is to make it "better" for personal usage, kinda like you and your 8.8 to 9" upgrade.
:rolleyes: The way I see it is if you dont like TTB then Dont buy that Model! :bangdesk:

Buy a 78 or 79 :shrug:

[79F150]

To each their own I have both and I like both. When the time comes to lift. I will SAS the 88 for the reason it is cheaper to SAS when you already have the axle. I have been thinking about doing the bent and cut TTB but I can't find the info I need/pics for me to try it.


We all have our own rigs and we all modify then to our needs. I see a use for both sides...:cheers:

[Blanco]

I have been thinking about doing the bent and cut TTB but I can't find the info I need/pics for me to try
You told me a few times that you've been to lazy to put in the effort to look for the info your self & hoped we find it for you....

Maybe if you make some effort you'd find that , That you seek! :m2c:

[79F150]

You told me a few times that you've been to lazy to put in the effort to look for the info your self & hoped we find it for you....

Maybe if you make some effort you'd find that , That you seek! :m2c:




Damn I got called out....:Bolt:

[87BIIXLT4x4]

hmmm i know ive posted info about it on here .....





i think i did... look in the TTB thread

[OneEvilB2]

All this talk about ttb, personally i have no problems with it, i bought a bll because i wanted a bll, i wasnt worried about what axles are in it, it came with a d28ttb front, 7.5 solid axle rear. I put in a d35 ttb front, and a 8.8 solid rear, sure it can act as a mud plow, but when swapping in a d35 is a bolt on swap, it doesnt get easier, uses d44 joints and knuckles too.... The only ups too solid axle are goes throught mud easy, and easier to flex... thats my .02$ later Mike

[Blanco]

Great to have another that can appreciate the TTB here at TWW! :cheers:

[OneEvilB2]

Yeah, ive got no problem with my ttb, ive been throught some pretty deep ruts, with no problems..Here have another one, its on me.. :13_4_9: Later Mike

[Badtodabone]

If you want a V8 dont buy a Honda CRX! If you want a straight Axle dont buy a TTB Bronco! :m2c:

new sig line:cheers: :awesome_dude:

[Blanco]

new sig line:cheers: :awesome_dude:

:roflsign: Hahahaha Thats Freaking Funny!
I saw your new sig somewhere else on the Site & thought " Thats cool he's calling it like it is. Dont buy something you dont want then Complain about it."

& then I find this.:roflsign:

No wonder I liked it! :rofl:

I was the one that originally said it! :HistericalSmiley:

[Badtodabone]

im sorry cam but thats a duh duh duh monment right thur:HistericalSmiley:

[Traveler]

What was the D50 TTB rated at? :6:

I'm asking because I dont know?? :shrug:



Weight capacity? I think they are like 4,500 lbs. I had one on my '93 F250. I would never take if off road, but I sure did like the ride of it.
33" tires, 7.3L with banks turbo, it never broke anything even when full torque of the IDI was applied.

[Blanco]

This guys Brothers Bronco is the same size & he was running the D50 TTB with no issues. :)
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/134540/fullsize/monster.jpg

[CheapThrillB2]

i love my TTB in my explorer, i have no intention of swapping it over, just hit the ruts with speed and plow over them, i do want a SAS for my B2 however (still D28), only because i use it for mud bogs only and i eventually want to run a 460 or maybe get midevil and run a torque monster 400 pontiac in it, make an abomination out of it

[Clarko]

TTB is terrrible to align, but that goes for 2WD I-beams too. I've bent my passenger i-beam twice now and as soon as I can, I'll be upgrading to a solid axle. 78-79? NO! I'm not a dentside or M-motor fan, nor of not having overdrive. I love my EFI 351W, my AOD, my whole truck... minus the TTB and the front clip. That's why I'm gonna clip swap up to a 92-up clip and a solid 44.

[Blanco]

Clarko, Thats just Silly if you dont like your front clip & TTB why do you even own that rig? :shrug:

Sell it & buy what you really what instead of bashing what you own. :rolleyes:

I personally have the same Body style as yours & I LOVE it!
Its my Fav. :7:

& in Many circles What you call up-grading is a step backwards. :14:

Oh & if you get a Set up Done right & a Good front end man working your rig, You wont have those issues you like to always through out there.

Since my last aling ment I've Beatin Blanco Pretty hard Running it fast through SCORE's PRIMM Course (74 Miles Of Rough Stuff, I was Shocked at how rough)
& MDR's Outlaw 250 Course (43 mile Loop)
& I'm currently still in just as good alingment as the day I drove it out of the alingment Shop. :m2c:

I remember when you Fawked up your front end the 1st time & I must say.
( Please dont get Pissed about my Comment here )

But you were a DUMB ASS! That Drop (BANG) into a hole Bending you Bumper & fender & Rear Bumper all at the same time.

Well when you go dropping into something like that What do you expect? :shrug:

In no way is the TTB a Perfect front end.
But what set up is? :6:

But hey to each their own...
Thats what makes this Hobby so Fun we can all do it our own way...

But you know full well, Bash The TTB & a few of us around here will reply. :eric[1]:

[Clarko]

Well if that ****ing dumbass on the quad wasn't there, then it wouldn't have happened. It also wouldn't have happened to a SFA rig. Ever try to do a camber adjustment on I-Beams? You can't adjust it more than a half a degree. Bend it a little and there, you need another one. Why would I sell a rig that's 98% great???
The dash is the best of the FSB's, period. There is no electronic trans to worry about. The Speedo's still mechanical. The TFI module is on the side of the dizzy where it belongs. I can run any axle in the back without worrying about a tone ring. There aint no 4WABS BS. The top comes off easily without any special tools or the loss of the rear seat belts, etc. etc. etc.
Think about it this way... Why would you get a classic Mustang and put EFI and a T-5 in it when you can get a fox already that way???
Build what you want, dont buy it.
And while we're on the subject, why didn't you just keep the grey Bronco??? Why didn't you sell the Blanco and keep that one since it already had your suspension on it? It's simple, really.

[Blanco]

why didn't you just keep the grey Bronco??? Why didn't you sell the Blanco and keep that one since it already had your suspension on it? It's simple, really.

I considered it.
But it was completely beat to shiat.
There was not a straight Panel on it.
& the interior was also Trashed.
Not to mention the Engine was on its last legs.... ( a very tired 5.0 )

& I wanted My rig to be cleaner & more Comfy. :cheers:
You see JC got heavy into Rock Crawling with it. & suffered alot of body Damage along the way.

& according to everyone that witnessed his rock Crawling Play, he amazed all the Nay sayers on how well a TTB can Rock Crawl. :cheers:

I was just gonna do Blanco from strach but when I calculated How much money I was saving buy buying the donor rig & swapping it parts, It was a No Brainer..

No mods Needed just a Simple swap & I got it all done for FREEEEEEEEE! :pianodance:
I just gave the Guys that Swaped it all over for me The Donor Carcase with Blanco original Suspension.

He had all sorts of plans to fix it all up himself into another pre-runner etc..
But sold it to some guy for $500.00. :rolleyes:

[Clarko]

SEE???? It's easier to work with what you have!!

[Blanco]

SEE???? It's easier to work with what you have!!

Yep, as I said a Direct swap with no Mods...
& I did not have to lift a single wrench & it costed me nothing..:14:

[Clarko]

You bought the truck!!!!

[Clarko]

Cam, I'm not blasting your TTB at all, I really like the idea and would love to do it to something someday, I just think it's a little too soft for the street (as is Raffa's coil-overs) and I want something I dont ever have to replace axle-pivot bushings on again. I know you keep saying it's how the Ford engineers engineered the truck, yes but your's ain't how they engineered it either. The way they engineered it is stock, and I've wheeled it stock for a while now with no major problems. It's just not a way I can afford to go now.

[locopny]

hey is it still ok to bash the 8.8 in the fullsize broncos??? it may be fine for lighter weight rigs.
TTB isn't a terrible front end...just terrible for what I want it for. Clarko's plans sound like what I will probably end up with on mine. Ford never engineered the Bronco for what I ask of it....so I have to re-engineer it to " 'PNY specs".

[Blanco]

Tom, from what I've heard you've done some hardcore wheeling & thats been all with your TTB :cheers:

[Clarko]

In all honesty, my 250 will probably end up with cut-n-bent I-Beams.

[locopny]

Tom, from what I've heard you've done some hardcore wheeling & thats been all with your TTB :cheers:

Yeah , I have...but it is showing signs of needing something more suitable.
I don't do enough fast stuff to justify a setup like yours...plus all the hauling and heavy stuff just isn't suited with the TTB.

Its not ideal, but it did work. or atleast I made it work.:cheers: