Project: "Limo Zuk"

[RocZuk]

I'm the laziest guy when it comes to taking pics while fabbing. so here are some pics to refresh everyones memory as well as some current pics:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/000_2142.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1311.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0046.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0049.jpg
I'm finally almost done!!

[Blanco]

:awesome_dude: I've got get over there to see that thing! :cheers:
what size tires are those again?
look like 37's on that little thing..

I wonder if you realized the green on those bead locks look just like the green on Mike's Jeep? :6:

Looking great tho..
That Cage is so :cooool:

Only thing I wonder is about that full size spare?
its hard to tell in the pics but how that effecting your departure angle?

It looks like it might get hung up on stuff? :humm_smilie:

But like I said its hard to tell from these pics...

[RocZuk]

Thanks, The tires are only 35x12.5's; I think i'll stick to 35's right now. They tuck nice. I twisted it up and got the rear tire off the ground 38.5" and the front tire hadn't lifted off the ground yet. I was hitting the body on the wall. The spare is a full size spare but is just hanging by a rope and is about 8" lower than it'll be when I build my spare tire carrier.

I still have to shim the front to get the castor corrected but it's going to be sweet.

Once I get the articulated pics uploaded from my friends phone i'll post them.

-Tristan

[Blanco]

:16:

[Blanco]

I've gotta tell you guys I've never seen a full size Sammy before..

I went over to check it out yesterday.
This thing looks Big & Bad! :cheers:

He says he's got lots of pics... :16:

:worthlessw-opics:

[RocZuk]

here are some more pics; pics of DYI beadlock install:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1496.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1487.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1492.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1488.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1482.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1504.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1506.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1497.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1499.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1500.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1502.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1503.jpg

[RocZuk]

Here is my gears install:
Toy 8" Detroit, 5.29 gears, Master Install
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1510.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1508.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1521.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1509.jpg
Pretty, clean 3rd (JK)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1514.jpg
My buddy Howard doing the install
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1517.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1518.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1515.jpg
Done!!!!!!!!!
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1520.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1519.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1525.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1524.jpg

[RocZuk]

Steering and 3rd install:
Trail Tough Suki to Toy Steering
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1528.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1527.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1539.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1537.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1548.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1540.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1541.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1538.jpg

[Blanco]

This is One Beffy looking axle housing! ;)
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_1548.jpg

[RocZuk]

All Pro Offroad Chromoly Rear Axles, El Do Calipers, Diskbrake Conversion
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0128.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0129.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0130.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0142.jpg

[RocZuk]

here it is; the new T-Max 9000lb winch.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0039.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0037.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0040.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0046-2.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0070.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0069.jpg

[Blanco]

Damn I remember when that thing was just a baby.. :awesome_dude:

So are you gonna protect the rear diff?

Considering hard hardcore the front one is I cant see you leaving the rear without..:shrug:

[RocZuk]

i'll throw on a trailgear diff guard right now; when I link the rear i'll do up the rear axle like the front.

how's yours coming?

[Blanco]

Well since I'm in Utah...

Its just sitting at the body shop...
& I'm sure all is well thanks for asking....

But lets not have me highjack your thread..:rolleyes:

[RocZuk]

you working out there?

[Blanco]

you working out there?
:rolleyes: Yes , you really need to pay more attention..
I'm working on a Suzuki commercial..

& the past couple of days we've been @ the Bonneville Salt Flats.

http://thewebwheeler.com/forums/showthread.php?t=761

[RocZuk]

ITS GREEN! I had a couple of hours to kill last night (yah that right; night painting) so I decided to start painting. I turned out ok. not shop quality but offroad acceptable in my book. I am just going to F it up anyways.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0083.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0074.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0081.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0076.jpg

[Blanco]

:6: Uummmmm.....
Why did you leave the strech un-painted?

That thing looks better ever time I see it! :headbang:

I cant wait to go wheeling with you in it.

I also thought I would point out that green is very similar to what we call Green screen..

In other words if you were to drive up in front of a green screen your Sammy would Vanish! ( Well all thats green)

Just thought I'd share that.. :)

[Blanco]

i dunno cause he's going to put a monkey there?
:WTF: are you talking about?

[RocZuk]

because I'm still not done with the body work on that area.

[RocZuk]

here are some driveway flex shots for cycling suspension. The rear passenger side tire is 38.5" in the air and the front right tire hasn't even come off the ground.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0092.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0091.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0088.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0086.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0094.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0089.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0096.jpg

[Blanco]

I wonder how much of that might change when you install the shocks..:humm_smilie:

[RocZuk]

I did the passenger side shock on Sat. I now know I need a shock that has 14-16" of shaft. My 10" King 2.5's aren't working out. It will have to be strapped and bump and I'll lose alot of it until I link front and rear. oh well; i'm happy that it flex's better than before.

[79F150]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/100_0092.jpg



Should of droped it on the cat...:HistericalSmiley:

[RocZuk]

speaking of dropping it; I was working under neath there for quite some time having scary thoughts about "what if this thing drops?"...

[Blanco]

speaking of dropping it; I was working under neath there for quite some time having scary thoughts about "what if this thing drops?"...

Dude! BECAREFUL! Having a car land on you is NO FUN!!!
Trust me I learned that one the hard way..

[Couch Slouch]

The suzuki looks great,nice work.But whats up with the two prerunners in the pics?!?!?You should start a thread on those also.:cheers:

[Blanco]

The suzuki looks great,nice work.But whats up with the two prerunners in the pics?!?!?You should start a thread on those also.:cheers:
Those belong to a couple of his Buddies!
They look even better in person. :m2c:

[RocZuk]

Thanks, i'll hopefully have it on the road in the next few weeks (3). I know i've been saying that for the last few months but that is my goal. I have to get it out of there before I start linking it because if I do that i'll basically never get it out of there.

The further Ranger in the garage belongs to "Pat" a 95 Green one with 6.5" Camburg extended beams and heimed radius arms extended to tranny crossmember on 14" 2.5 racerunners w/ engine Camburb engine cage. Deaver long travel pack with 16" racerunners in the back. front is Strapped and bumped at 18.5" travel.

The closer one to the right belongs to "Gury" a 97 Gun Metal Grey one with a recently done Blitzkreig Motor Sports Long travel A-Arm kit. 6.5" extended front wheelbase custom lower arms, 12" king coilovers. Custom Billet Upper arm with room for a triple bypass. front is strapped and bumped at 17.5" travel. Stock is 9-9.5" travel.

If you want i'll take pics.

[Blanco]

If you want i'll take pics.
Well Duh! :rolleyes:

Of course we'd like Pics of them ..
Like I said I've seen them in person & they're :cooool:, :m2c:

But you might wanna post them elsewhere so you dont highjack your own thread.. :shrug:

[RocZuk]

thanks, I'll get some pics together of the other 2 rides and post them up somewhere. -Tristan

[Blanco]

I went over to RocZuks Today to help him work on his Sammy some.:cheers:

& Of course I had My Camera http://bestsmileys.com/camera/1.gif

I use to think this thing was just TOO OVER KILL.
But I'm really starting to like it the more I look at it..
OVER KILL is good in my book! :7:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428779/fullsize/img_7858.jpg

His engine compartment is so much simpler than mine.
Its missing its Wheel wells tho & I wont do that Because I like MUD too much & dont wanna cover my engine in MUD.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428780/fullsize/img_7859.jpg

Heres He's modifying his steering system to get it all to fit.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428781/fullsize/img_7860.jpg
Today he got the Power steering working..
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428788/fullsize/img_7867.jpg
& I'm jealous!
He's got 35's & can turn the wheels lock to lock with one hand! :awesome_dude:
Funny thing is after hooking up the power steering lines he was basically out of fluid for it.:eusa_doh: DOH!

But then he found this old can in the Shead.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428786/fullsize/img_7865.jpg
Now did I mention it was old?
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428787/fullsize/img_7866.jpg
Just look at the can....

Then he mounted these additions to his Bumper..
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428783/fullsize/img_7862.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/428784/fullsize/img_7863.jpg

So now his rear bumper match'es his front better having a combo of Round & square tubing! :cheers:

[87BIIXLT4x4]

looking good...


so cam were u helping or just standing around with the camera in hand?

[RocZuk]

PS is awesome. I chuckled because I haven't ever driven a samurai that can turn with this amount of ease so when it's on the road it'll be that much easier.

Cam was helping. sort of...

mostly just motivational speaking and drinking but he was there a few times that needed a hand or else I wouldn't have gotten things done as smooth as they did. :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10:

[Blanco]

Hey you know full well I wanted to help.
there just was'nt much for me to do. http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/3.gif

& If you remembered I had to find things to do, like move crap out of the way so you could weld , used my sammy to go get more fluid, gave you the idea on modifing the steering, put tools away!!

I could of just Drank Beer & watched!
it aint my fault you wer'nt doing anything that required more hands.. :shrug:

[RocZuk]

no you actually helped which I appreciate. You also made me realize I have created a new slogan for samurai fab so I decided to put it as my sig.

[Couch Slouch]

Samurai's looking sweet dood!One thing ive been wondering about...
Whats the best way to keep the axle housing from warping when you truss it?(like youre front axle)Ive got a bare housing i want to truss...I was thinking about making a adjustable jig for different width housings...Just not sure about how to go about it.

[Blanco]

Samurai's looking sweet dood!One thing ive been wondering about...
Whats the best way to keep the axle housing from warping when you truss it?(like youre front axle)Ive got a bare housing i want to truss...I was thinking about making a adjustable jig for different width housings...Just not sure about how to go about it.
Lets not HI-Jake this thread with truss talk..

But I will say that you have to do it slowly over a day or so to prevent warpage..

its the heat that warps it & if you do long welds it gets mighty hot..

But even if you take 3 days just welding a few inches at a time you'd still be best off sending it off to get it straightened..

I looked into this alot before getting mine for Blanco..
RDC & DesertRangers are pretty good sources for this sort of stuff.

Feel free to start a new thead on this else where. :)

[RocZuk]

well I didn't do the front axle truss on mine but the way mine was trussed was the plate, etc was welded on all at once, then sent to be straightened with a narly 100 ton press and then verified it was straight.

[Couch Slouch]

Cool...

[RocZuk]

I will be trussing the rear to match the front though. I'll probably just weld everything up and send it to get straightened though. When it comes to offroading I don't want to be stranded.

[Blanco]

Today Tristan took his LimoZuk to work! :pianodance:

Its the 1st time out of his driveway in a very long time!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431738/fullsize/img_8378.jpg


Then we headed on over to my fav. liquor store.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431741/fullsize/img_8379.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431743/fullsize/img_8380.jpg

This thing is looking pretty Bad ass in person! :m2c:

His stinger sticks out about the same as mine does...
What a cawinky-dink! :cheers:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431744/fullsize/img_8382.jpg

I stuck the Camera up so you can see what its like in his cab.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431756/fullsize/img_8384.jpg

Big & little brothers side by each!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431758/fullsize/img_8386.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/431760/fullsize/img_8389.jpg

He say his biggest issue seems to be his Bump steer... :6:

[Couch Slouch]

:awesome_dude: Congrats on getting it rolling.

[RocZuk]

thanks, steering is scary due to caster issue so time to order parts and park it once again. although this time i'm not parking it anywhere near I had it. it was parked in the back of my driveway for almost a year and it's finally out so i'm parking it in front of my house. it's a never ending project just like any one of our offroad vehicles. I'm going to tie up alot of loose ends before it gets back on the road but now that I drove it even if the steering was scary at least when I add more parts like traction bars, steering caster correction, bump the PS pumps flow up, rear shocks i'll have an idea of how much better it will be. yeah it's on all 4 wheels. :pianodance:

[Blanco]

Keep us posted on how its going as you work on it..:1a_spcartman:

[RocZuk]

sure.

[83 Toy]

I am very impressed with the ride. Makes me want to go out and find one!

[97F250HD Dude]

that is one good looking sammy! good to see it's on the road finally!

[RocZuk]

yeah, thanks. Hope to get it fully functional for mid october to go wheeling @ Fright Night near Gorman, CA. if your close to Gorman then please try to attend this run it's just a fun group run and there are lots of activities.

[Blanco]

So did you install the trunk into the Limo yet?
Did it fit width wise or did you go length?

& how about some Pics of how it looks in there? :16:

[RocZuk]

nope. hopefully tonight. -Tristan

[eliTe.Br0nc0]

that is sweet looking suzuki

[RocZuk]

thanks, i'll post new pics up tonight.

[Blanco]

thanks, i'll post new pics up tonight.
Still waiting... :waiting:

[RocZuk]

not yet, ive been coming home @ 10pm or so every night; i'll have to wait til the weekend.

I did get my driveshaft back and wow that solved every vibration known on the sammy. What I mean is that I extended another shaft and have been running taht but it was obviously way out of balance. I got to go fast down the street in it and experienced the newsuspension setup and let me tell you it Drives like a caddy now!

[Blanco]

But does the Trunk fit? :shrug:

[RocZuk]

it fits for sure but getting it in is a whole different story.:rofl:

[Blanco]

Tristan is not Much for taking Pics:rolleyes: , So I took his Upgrade Pics for him.:cheers:

He now has a large lockable truck. ( Sammies have now where to lock up your stuff. )
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/439828/fullsize/img_8824.jpg
Seeing this has me considering a swap over to the Bigger trunk. :humm_smilie:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/439829/fullsize/img_8825.jpg

[Blanco]

He also install this bad ass track bar!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/439830/fullsize/img_8826.jpg

[Blanco]

Ok I went to hang out with Tristan today & here some of what got done. :cheers:
Please Excuse the Out of focus Pics... :paperbag:

Lucky for him he has complete access toa real shop 24-7
So heres some Pics of todays progress. :)
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440764/fullsize/img_8830.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440765/fullsize/img_8831.jpghttp://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440767/fullsize/img_8834.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440772/fullsize/img_8838.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440773/fullsize/img_8839.jpg

Tristan is brave & just goes for it & makes the stuff ....
Track bar creation.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440774/fullsize/img_8840.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440775/fullsize/img_8841.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440783/fullsize/img_8842.jpg

& heres Cal minis version of my Mighty Kong.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440785/fullsize/img_8847.jpg

Custom Drive shaft lengtghing.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440786/fullsize/img_8849.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440788/fullsize/img_8854.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440790/fullsize/img_8856.jpg

[CJ7on33's]

dude your zuki is looking awesome. hopefully i'll get to see it one day. maybe sometime this winter if i get station where i want too ill get to come to San Diego area

[87BIIXLT4x4]

lookin good....helps when u have access to a 24/7 shop

[RocZuk]

it's coming together. I'm getting antsy though to go out in it. there still needs to be alot of going through but for now it'll be OK for a test run.

I have way too much travel for my driveshaft can handle. I need to get an extreme splined shaft that has maybe 10" of spline and need to really clearence the driveshaft joints; thats my major problem.

[Blanco]

helps when u have access to a 24/7 shop
But his wife dont let him work on it too much. :079[1]: :14:
Or it would of been done months ago! :shrug:

[RocZuk]

you got that right!

[87BIIXLT4x4]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/rwpatton/Smilies/whip.gif



u know women can be baught off...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/rwpatton/Smilies/hammer.gif

[RocZuk]

well i'm back. I'm redoing the front suspension mounts to improve castor angle, flex and driveshaft extension due to my shackle being severly angled plus other stuff. Another hammers trip is coming up on February 5th and I'm itching to be rocking it up.

here is my purchase today:

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/sloped-hangers-225.jpg
New front hangers

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/shackle-mount-225.jpg
Shackle Mounts

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/shackleparts-225.jpg
Shackles

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/diffarm-large-225.jpg
Rear Diff Guard

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/bp-elim-225.jpg
Toy Axle Backing Plate Eliminator

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/tcaseseat-225.jpg
T-Case Shift Sheet

http://www.energysuspension.com/media2/9_9109.jpg
Front & Rear Bump Stops

install pics to come!:pianodance:

[Blanco]

:awesome_dude: Glad to see your ready to get back at it.. :cheers:
Let me know if you need someone to Drink your beer :13_4_10: & hand you tools. :roflsign:

Was this stuff Your X-Mas Presents?

When do you expect to get these parts?

[RocZuk]

i'll hopefully get them by friday but you never know. This was money for clothes but I have clothes so i'm spending it on sammy stuff. -Tristan

[Blanco]

This was money for clothes but I have clothes so i'm spending it on sammy stuff.

:20: :20: :20:

[RocZuk]

just joking; it was just money from relatives.

[79F150]

just joking; it was just money from relatives.

Joke is fine but I don't want to see your naked ass on the trail....:rofl:

[RocZuk]

:13_10_8:

[Blanco]

:13_10_8:

What is with you & that Happy B-day smiley?

Yeah Please Hide your birthday suit from us that actually do wheel with you..

I dont wanna here I had to choose clothes or Parts & I picked Parts.. :nono:

[RocZuk]

:deadhorse:

[Blanco]

I made a visit to Tristans today & found him working on the LimoZuk. http://bestsmileys.com/camera/1.gif
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475075/fullsize/img_0913.jpg
Sorry about this Blurry shot. :paperbag:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475076/fullsize/img_0914.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475077/fullsize/img_0915.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475078/fullsize/img_0917.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475079/fullsize/img_0918.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475082/fullsize/img_0919.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475083/fullsize/img_0922.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475084/fullsize/img_0923.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475086/fullsize/img_0925.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/475089/fullsize/img_0929.jpg

[MUDMAD]

Dam I miss those days of shop access 24/7. Nice looking Limo package.

[Blanco]

Shop?

That was in his driveway. :shrug:

[RocZuk]

thanks Cam for giving me moral support while your and I were freezing our nuts off:13_4_10: :13_4_10: :13_4_10: It was hard to work in these freezing conditions. -Tristan

[Blanco]

The big queston is ?
Are gonna stick with 35's or move up?


The more I think about it I say Move up.. :cheers:

But then again that DAMN snow ball gets rolling at that point! :bangdesk:

[RocZuk]

well if I get some expected money in before I get hooked up with bigger tires; i'll buy Howards Toyo's (35's). I would like to go bigger but my rig would them have to get cut up alittle bit more to fit the bigger tires (37's-38's) and i'd have to get front Bobby Longs so I wont brake the front axles. The rear axles won't break and will probably withstand 40's but the front axles are stock. If I stick with 35's i'll be able to pund the **** out of Roczuk and not worry about breaking. It's a tough desicion.

here are the 35's I might get though:

http://shop.enthusiastworld.com/images/m/583/13369.jpg
35x13.5/15

[Blanco]

Tristan> http://bestsmileys.com/thinking/1.gif

[RocZuk]

well it's time that I deal with my motor issues...

my big problem is not lack of power (stock 1.3 around 40-55hp dyno'd)as this is a crawler primarily and it's got sufficient power once I drop it in 4lo. My concern is the carbuerator; when I travel to the trail in the high altitude it drops the power in half (it feels like a go kart trying to push 35's) and when i'm in the high altitude the oxygen is less and seems to want to stall easier; mostly because of the rock hills and flooding the carb, etc.

I originally wanted to switch to a 1.6 16V Sidekick motor which is the norm for a samurai motor swap but don't want to spend those funds right now as to do it right with alow mileage motor even with junkyard hookups, conversion kit, etc i'll be spending up to $2000.00 or more.

my motor is fine other than the troublesome carb. NOTE: I had it rebuilt about 1 year ago and the guy knew his **** and was awesome for along time but after swishing that fuel around offroading and having it sit for long periods of time it's time to rebuild it again and I don't want to throw my money away.

I"M GOING PROPANE!:pianodance:

http://www.gotpropane.com/p4.html#Suzuki

It'll be published as well in my favorite mag.

i'll give a full writeup as I go. many sammy owners have done this and swear by it. many moderate mechanics on a sammy says it takes no more than 2 hours install. (all electrical is 1 12V hookup for the shut off)

Benefits:
* Will not go bad
* Burns clean
* Requires no maintenance
* Is easy to install
* Is very safe
* Rates at 100-110 octane
* Automatically compensates for altitude
* Prolongs engine life
* Is affordable
* You can run motor upside down
* No wiring except the on/off solenoid.
* No gasoline leaking when you roll
* Propane is not harmful to soil or water
* Safe
$695.00
http://www.gotpropane.com/images/DSC00555.JPG?s=1141274779
I'll buy a tank and thats all i'll need.

[locopny]

this should be good.....

how soon do you start?

[RocZuk]

2 weeks maybe 3; I'm going to the hammers the second weekend of Feb so I'll start the weekend after.

[Badtodabone]

Wow I'm really liking the project

[Blanco]

Tristan went & bought him self a Trailer! :awesome_dude:

Heres what it looked like when he brought it home.
After cutting off the rear frame supports..( From the fenders back )
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486433/fullsize/img_1538.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486434/fullsize/img_1539.jpg

Then He made a Boo boo. :bangdesk:
& not thinking he cut off the rear portions frame supports! DOH! :eusa_doh:
He told me on the phone how it bent the rear of the trailer!
So I went over to visit & see what happen all within the 1st 24 hours of owning it. :4:

I love his drive way!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486476/fullsize/img_1540.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486477/fullsize/img_1541.jpg

& here we placed all the new wood he bought to replace the crap that was on there, over the Crappy wood to look at it.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486478/fullsize/img_1543.jpg
& here I Started painting the trailers floor boards for him while Tristan drank beer. :7_4_16:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486479/fullsize/img_1544.jpg
He only bought one paint roller so, only one person could paint at a time..:shrug:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486480/fullsize/img_1545.jpg
I had nothing better to do today, so I was happy to help. :)
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486489/fullsize/img_1546.jpg
Here you can see how much the frame dropped when he loaded his friends pre-runner onto it. :eusa_doh:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486490/fullsize/img_1547.jpg
Look how bad his old wood looked.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486491/fullsize/img_1548.jpg
Here what we used to treat the wood.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486492/fullsize/img_1549.jpg
Here Tristan applies a second coat.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486493/fullsize/img_1550.jpg
Then we removed the old wood from the trailer.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486549/fullsize/img_1552.jpg
Here Tristan starts working on the mod's to correct the dropped frame issues..
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486550/fullsize/img_1553.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486551/fullsize/img_1554.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486552/fullsize/img_1555.jpg
Then I jacked it up to a level looking placement.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486553/fullsize/img_1557.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486554/fullsize/img_1558.jpg
& then tristan got busy.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486558/fullsize/img_1562.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486555/fullsize/img_1559.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486557/fullsize/img_1561.jpg

& then we started placeing the newly treated boards into place! :7:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486560/fullsize/img_1563.jpg
& then we start spray painting it with some OliveDrab paint that he had bought a while back ( he was gonna Paint the LimoZuk with it until he changed his mind )
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486562/fullsize/img_1565.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486564/fullsize/img_1567.jpg
Ita almost done. :spaz_smilie:
all in one days work! :7:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/486565/fullsize/img_1568.jpg

[RocZuk]

thanks for the help Cam. It was fun; I don't think it would have been as much fun alone. it's already starting to look like a decent trailer.

just so everyone knows I got this trailer for a good price; I'm sure some of you rednecks out in the boonies could have bought one like it for $100.00 or so but here in LA they aren't cheap, even older ones. anyways this is perfect for me as my sammy weighs maybe half of the weight of your average jeep or bronco so I'm happy!:pianodance: :cheers:

more to come next weekend. stay tuned

[RocZuk]

I got my order in on this:
Should be here this week and maybe attempt to put it in.

Example on a samurai:
http://www.gotpropane.com/images/sammytank.jpg?s=1083018159

Kit:
http://www.gotpropane.com/images/DSC00555.JPG?s=1141274779

Just came out with this:
http://www.buytikitorches.com/images/lc33_1.jpg
it's a fiberglass tank in order to quickly peek at the fuel level, I got one!

and one of the larger steel ones for backup:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/4c/94/5f_2.JPG

$ never stops coming out of my ass it seems:mbr:

[zook]

the trailer doesnt seem to have much support from front to back.. are you going to add anything to it?

[RocZuk]

yeah I agree with you. yeah i'm going to throw about 5 steel channel pieces parralell to the wood underneath and finish the rear supports that I cut out to fit a long travel ranger in as well, it'll be strong once I'm done.

thanks though; you wheel much? you coming to TDS?

[locopny]

just a suggestion...
maybe add a length of steel from the top of the rail to near where the ramp mounts...added strength there may help keep the frame from bending again....its that whole triangulation thing.

my trailer has supports every 2' I think and they are perpendicular to the direction of travel.
see if I can locate a photo...cant see one tonight..get one on Tuesday.
didn't see it having axle brakes...plan on using any?
you can check out northerntool.com they have decent priced trailer parts

direct link (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_166839)

[RocZuk]

yeah that is the plan. thanks bud

[locopny]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20136#post20136
here's a direct link to my trailer WIP....to keep your thread cleaner...
my cross supports are no further than 22 " OC
before adding the top rail...it flexed all over the place...and my welds werent even purty but they got penetration.

will be interested in seeing how yours will come together.

[RocZuk]

**** yeah doggy!

Thanks Tom

I now know that at a later time i'll be extending my sides to be parrallel to the fenders like yours but your pics show me the way on how i'll be strengthening mine. thanks buddy

[locopny]

:weld: :grinder: De nada.
No problemo amigo.

[Blanco]

:weld: :grinder: De nada.
No problemo amigo.

There he goes showing off again. :rolleyes:

[locopny]

There he goes showing off again. :rolleyes:
:4: :rolleyes:

ese es yo…eso sucedera despues de hablar con un amigo que trabajaba con por 3 anos
(that's me...that'll happen after talking with a friend I used to work with for 3 years)

:17:








Ok, had to check that one out. ups...
Back to topic...:cheers:

[Blanco]

ese es yo…eso sucedera despues de hablar con un amigo que trabajaba con por 3 anos
:6: :shrug:


(that's me...that'll happen after talking with a friend I used to work with for 3 years)


Thank you for translating.....
Here I was staring at the words sounding them out, I got about 1/2 of them. :o

[CJ7on33's]

well thats better than i did i just looked at it realized it was in spanish and went to the next line

[zook]

you wheel much?

I wheeled once and i think thats enough. From now on I just web wheel. Im going to build my zook up though. I like the look and having the equipment to conquer anything but im too afraid to actually use it. Thats why i like this site. Im not alone in my thinking.

[Blanco]

I wheeled once and i think thats enough. From now on I just web wheel. Im going to build my zook up though. I like the look and having the equipment to conquer anything but im too afraid to actually use it. Thats why i like this site. Im not alone in my thinking.

:20: :rofl:

[RocZuk]

Your tracker looks cool. You should come out to Azusa with Cam and I some time; you don't even have to wheel it and you can still have fun. Chula Vista is close right?

[Blanco]

You should come out to Azusa with Cam and I some time; you don't even have to wheel it
Yeah I'd be happy to let you ride ShotGun with Me. :cheers:

[locopny]

Chula Vista is like San Diego...IIRC. its only 2+ hours on a good day.

[Yikes]

:4: :rolleyes:

ese es yo…eso sucedera despues de hablar con un amigo que trabajaba con por 3 anos

Tom! Por que no me dejistes que usted habla Espanol? Esta muy bien por que, caundo vamos en la tierra mi esposa puede tener algien con que hablar. :)

Back to topic

[locopny]

Tom! Por que no me dejistes que usted habla Espanol? Esta muy bien por que, caundo vamos en la tierra mi esposa puede tener algien con que hablar. :)

Back to topic

:cooool: :)

[Blanco]

Hey Tristan, I think their talking about you... :shrug:

[RocZuk]

they better not I might just have to sneek up behind them and :bfuc:

[locopny]

nope...Brian wonders why I...er Tristan did't tell him that he knew how to speak spanish...and that it would be great when his wife goes wheeling she'd have someone to talk with...

atleast thats how I translated it(name changed to protect the innocent)....pretty sure its close. I do better writing and reading than speaking....

[Blanco]

Ok after getting frustrated with my trailer lights issues on Blanco & not Testing My Sammy's Flat tow today, I went over to Visit roczuk, & found him working on his Propane swap.
& then I hung around for a couple of hours with him tinkering on it.

Heres some Pics...

This tank is really :cooool: you can see the liquid propane level through it.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/488896/fullsize/img_1584.jpg

:bye2: Old Carb!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/488897/fullsize/img_1587.jpg

His Cat is a total Gear head! :roflsign:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/488898/fullsize/img_1588.jpg
This cat is always all over what ever wrenching is taking place & will always climb into & on all the trucks that show up.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/488900/fullsize/img_1590.jpg

Heres what replaces the Carb.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/488899/fullsize/img_1589.jpg

The fuel goes through this 1st Before the carb where its vaporized ( I think :shrug:)
It has heater hose's going through it to heat the cold propane.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/488902/fullsize/img_1592.jpg

[RocZuk]

I'll post more pics later but I have say this; Propane Conversion is by far the easiest and @ $1000.00 for everything I justified this by hoping I won't need to swap the motor, but if I do then this will work on the 16v 1.6 tracker motor, anyways I'm really happy with it. it is sooooo smooth even from start up. I took Cam around the block last night and without advancing the timing yet (Propane is 110 octane) It was very peppy. Once I get the timing where needed and make more adjustments I think I will "sell" everyone on this.

I still have all my old fuel lines and old gas tank that will need to be removed. I thought though, maybe i'll keep my stock gas tank like a cushion coming down on rocks, etc.

[TDog]

convert your old gas tank into an on board air tank!

[RocZuk]

that would be cool!:6:

[RocZuk]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture010.jpg
The Kit!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture041.jpg
The Tank Location

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture043.jpg
The Tanks and Kit Box

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture050.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture051.jpg
The DEVIL Carb:notsigned:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture062.jpg
Making Throttle Linkage Work!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture064.jpg
Over to the regulator placement; out of the way and safe as there is a thick plate on the bottom to shield from rocks

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture071.jpg
Connecting the Coolant lines and the fuel hose as shown

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture072.jpg
Installed New Propane carb, fuel hose and fabbed up a throttle bracket and used the stock sammy carb throttle cable guide.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture083.jpg
Finished Throttle

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture088.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture091.jpg
Coolant Line tie in
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture084.jpg
Propane main line hookup

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture105.jpg
Done on regulator install

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture087.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture107.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture106.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture109.jpg
MUCH CLEANER, more to come

[Blanco]

convert your old gas tank into an on board air tank!

I dont think it would hold up to Pressue very well. :shrug:
But he could use that space for proper air Tanks & such ..

[Blanco]

Before.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture051.jpg

After.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture107.jpg

So much cleaner. :7:
You can actually see the intake Manifold.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture109.jpg

[TDog]

Your tracker looks cool. You should come out to Azusa with Cam and I some time; you don't even have to wheel it and you can still have fun. Chula Vista is close right?



where exactly is Azusa?

[RocZuk]

good thinking Cam. I think Cam is almost sold on it:rofl:

[Blanco]

good thinking Cam. I think Cam is almost sold on it:rofl:

Yeah it wont take to much pushing. :shrug:


Azusa is basically at the 210 & 605 fwys...

[Bronkzilla]

Before.

After.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture107.jpg


how much does something like that run? where do you fill it? how long will it last between fills...?

[RocZuk]

$695.00 for the Samurai kit, $160.00 for the bling bottle and $160.00 for the large steel bottle, you fill the propane bottle like your average BBQ bottle, most people say it's the same usage in fuel.

here are the rest of the install pics:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture085.jpg
Bottles; one is the "just released" fiberglass see thru bottle (they only have that one in the smaller 8 gallon size) and the other one is the larger 10 gallon steel one.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture095.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture093.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture096.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture094.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture097.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/roczuk/Samurai%20Propane%20Conversion/Picture110.jpg
Mounting, fitting, connecting, INSTALLED!

[CJ7on33's]

im taking that it burning cleaner too so you dont have to worry about smog and stuff like that? How will it effect like your horsepower or burning up your pistons?

[97F250HD Dude]

thats :awesome_dude:

[TDog]

now if you wanted to put one of these kits onto a daily driver, are they smog legal?

[RocZuk]

right now CA isn't allowing these conversions unless it comes from the factory, that is the most recent data I have. I have another stock samurai so I just use that :rofl:

Gas mileage is the same or better; power is amazingly crisper and very responsive.

[JoJon]

Tristan,
Question for you, I'm in the middle of doing my YJ lift on my Sami and I'm thinking of stretching 6 inches in the front. What shackles did you on your front leafs and where did you get them?

Thanks,
Joe

[RocZuk]

Tristan,
Question for you, I'm in the middle of doing my YJ lift on my Sami and I'm thinking of stretching 6 inches in the front. What shackles did you on your front leafs and where did you get them?

Thanks,
Joe

awsome!

well I extended my frame 6" and then did the shackle reversal using Trail-Gears (trail-gear.com) mounts.

go into alittle more detail though as to what you want to achieve so I can better direct you.

[JoJon]

I'm also doing a shackle reversal, I want to move the the front spring mount forward and use the stock rear mount. Also, how long of a front drive shaft did you have to use?

Thanks,
Joe

[Blanco]

Hey Jo consider how much work your about to take on...

It was enough just getting mine to all work right moving my front axle only 2 inches forward.. :shrug:

[JoJon]

Hey Jo consider how much work your about to take on...

It was enough just getting mine to all work right moving my front axle only 2 inches forward.. :shrug:

Yes it's a lot of work but I want to stretch it a bit and I really liked how Tristan's is setup. I'll be cuttin the hell out of the fenders but oh well who needs fenders?

[RocZuk]

here is what you want; I made my setup but that is because i'm a cheap ass:
http://www.asianautopartsofaz.com/suspensionparts.html

[JoJon]

I'm right there with ya, I don't think it's being cheep. Why pay for something when you do it or build it yourself. I've got the time, space and equipment to do the work and this way if something goes wrong there's no one to blame but myself.

[RocZuk]

well if you got the stuff i'll guide you; where do you live?

[JoJon]

About an hour south of you in Santa Ana, a bit of a drive. Where did you order your front end parts from (shackles and hangers)?

[RocZuk]

trail-gear

Front setup use these below:
http://trail-gear.com/images/sloped-hangers-600.jpg
http://trail-gear.com/rearhangers.html

Shackle Plates 5", $6, 110014-1
http://trail-gear.com/shackles.html

Rear setup use this kit:
http://trailtough.com/images/rearjykit.jpg
http://trailtough.com under product listing> suspension kits

front shaft just needs to be extended if you do the suspension like mine.

rear shaft just get what cam got: http://www.asianautopartsofaz.com/drivetrainparts.html
get the basic rear samurai driveshaft with the super flex joints.

brake lines:
http://trailtough.com/images/Image8.gif
http://trailtough.com under product listing> suspension components

Shock hoops:
http://trailtough.com/images/Fordshktwr2.jpg
http://trailtough.com under product listing> suspension components

Shocks:
http://trailtough.com/images/shocks2.jpg
http://trailtough.com under product listing> suspension components

Steering:
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/images/suzuki/samihighsteer4.jpg
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com under Suzuki> Steering

Lower shock mounts:
http://trailtough.com/images/newshkmts_small.jpg
http://trailtough.com under product listing> suspension components

[JoJon]

Thanks Tristan!!! That's what I was looking for.